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Post by Stefan Pendl on Oct 21, 2018 7:02:57 GMT
If you like to know how BASIC programs were written back in 1978, take a look at the BASIC Computer Games book. May be you can show some of these ancient starters converted into JB and restructured to utilize the now common modular programming. Happy coding.
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Post by carlgundel on Dec 20, 2018 15:04:27 GMT
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Post by tsh73 on Dec 21, 2018 6:46:31 GMT
Have a look at a blog post I wrote recently about programming in the old line numbered BASICs. That's not all 100% correct. Our memory embellish things a lot. A LOT. For example, I used to write programs in QBasic. Lots of subs and stuff. (actually I switched to JB in 2007 because QBasic community on TekTips forum dried up ) Then after some years I went to look in QBasic (it is still runnable on XP) -- I just have not much fun writing in IDE without UNDO (not that JB has working UNDO ;p ), single window (I know, window could be divided in two), no copy/paste between programs and non-standard keybindings.
As for returning back to Spectrum - I tried emulator (then ported some progs to LB). No fun at all - even copy/paste (into single program) did not existed then! (Oh, and emulator saves from tinkering with cassette recorder to save one's program.
Without recorder, it was some hours typing - debugging - running once or twice and POOF, all gone)
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Post by carlgundel on Dec 21, 2018 13:50:52 GMT
Have a look at a blog post I wrote recently about programming in the old line numbered BASICs. That's not all 100% correct. Our memory embellish things a lot. A LOT. For example, I used to write programs in QBasic. Lots of subs and stuff. (actually I switched to JB in 2007 because QBasic community on TekTips forum dried up ) Then after some years I went to look in QBasic (it is still runnable on XP) -- I just have not much fun writing in IDE without UNDO (not that JB has working UNDO ;p ), single window (I know, window could be divided in two), no copy/paste between programs and non-standard keybindings.
As for returning back to Spectrum - I tried emulator (then ported some progs to LB). No fun at all - even copy/paste (into single program) did not existed then! (Oh, and emulator saves from tinkering with cassette recorder to save one's program.
Without recorder, it was some hours typing - debugging - running once or twice and POOF, all gone) Line numbered BASIC interpreters do have their limitations, but most modern tools are not as interactive. There is something to learn from the REPL idea, which is the foundation of old BASIC. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read–eval–print_loopYour experience is different from my own. I recently wrote some BASIC code on my Commodore VIC-20. I had a lot of fun and I plan to do some more of that.
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Post by Rod on Dec 21, 2018 22:15:27 GMT
I had a LOT of fun with my first ZX81 and then Spectrum I don't ever want to repeat the experience.
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Post by carlgundel on Dec 22, 2018 0:36:18 GMT
I had a LOT of fun with my first ZX81 and then Spectrum I don't ever want to repeat the experience. There is a large community of people who still love using their old home computers. The modern computers are great in so many ways, but they lack the charm of simplicity. The early computers were completely comprehensible.
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